I want to make bio diesel for use in my car, i was going to buy some cooking oil from somewhere like tesco or another supermarket but having looked on the website that seems to be more expensive than buying fuel from the forecourt so what are people going on about when they say you can make your own diesel cheap from buying cooking oil and processing it?Making bio diesel, where's the best place to go to buy cheap new/used cooking oil?
I currently run Bio Fuel (straight vegetable) in a 1999 Dodge 3500 truck. But all Cummins engines were modified from the factory to run on BioD since around 1992 without any modification.
Biofuel is recognized by both the US Environmental Protection Agency and Department of Energy as an alternative fuel, and qualifies for mandated programs under the Clean Air Act Amendments and the Environmental Protection Act of 1992 (EPAct).
USDA Clears Air with Biofuel: Buses and other diesel-burning vehicles run cleaner if they mix biofuel with regular diesel fuel, said the US Department of Agriculture at a biofuel fuel seminar at a USDA research center.
Conversely most major automotive manufacturers (Chrysler, Ford, and General Motors, etc) recommend the use of bio fuels, and nearly every car manufacturer in the world approves ethanol blends in their warranty coverage.
In fact your probably even driving an ethanol car and didn't even know it.
The trick is finding fuel.
I've been producing biofuel for about 3 years now, it's not extremely difficult. Basically you need general household ingredients, a processor (or still for ethanol) and some used oil. Blend it, let separate, screen and use. I complied a guide a while back to help walk you threw the process step by step, just email me or check out..
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鈥?1 liter of new vegetable oil, whatever the supermarket sells as cooking oil
鈥?200 ml of methanol, 99+% pure
鈥?lye catalyst -- either potassium hydroxide (KOH) or sodium hydroxide (NaOH)
鈥?blender or mini-processor
鈥?scales accurate to 0.1 grams, preferably less -- 0.01 grams is best
鈥?measuring beakers for methanol and oil
鈥?half-liter translucent white HDPE (#2 plastic) container with bung and screw-on cap
鈥?2 funnels to fit the HDPE container
鈥?2-litre PET bottle (water or soft-drinks bottle) for settling
鈥?two 2-litre PET bottles for washing
鈥?duct tape
鈥?thermometer
Use the ';Methoxide the easy way'; method -- it's also the safe way. Here's how to do it.
Measure out 200 ml of methanol and pour it into the half-liter HDPE container via the funnel. Methanol also absorbs water from the atmosphere so do it quickly and replace the lid of the methanol container tightly. Don't be too frightened of methanol, if you're working at ordinary room temperature and you keep it at arm's length you won't be exposed to dangerous fumes.
Carefully add the lye to the HDPE container via the second funnel. Replace the bung and the screw on the cap tightly.
Shake the container a few times -- swirl it round rather than shaking it up and down. The mixture gets hot from the reaction. If you swirl it thoroughly for a minute or so five or six times over a period of time the lye will completely dissolve in the methanol, forming sodium methoxide or potassium methoxide. As soon as the liquid is clear with no undissolved particles you can begin the process.
The more you swirl the container the faster the lye will dissolve. With NaOH it can take from overnight to a few hours to as little as half-an-hour with lots of swirling (but don't be impatient, wait for ALL the lye to dissolve). Mixing KOH is much faster, it dissolves in the methanol more easily than NaOH and can be ready for use in 10 minutes.
Using a blender. Use a spare blender you don't need or get a cheap secondhand one -- cheap because it might not last very long, but it will get you going until you build something better.
Check that the blender seals are in good order. Make sure all parts of the blender are clean and dry and that the blender components are tightly fitted.
Pre-heat the oil to 55 deg C (130 deg F) and pour it into the blender.
With the blender still switched off, carefully pour the prepared methoxide from the HDPE container into the oil.
Secure the blender lid tightly and switch on. Lower speeds should be enough. Blend for at least 20 minutes.
Using a mini-processor. Follow the instructions below and improvise where necessary -- there are many ways of building a processor like this.
Proceed with processing as above, maintain temperature at 55 deg C (130 deg F), process for one hour.
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Stop Global Warming!!!Making bio diesel, where's the best place to go to buy cheap new/used cooking oil?
bio diesel isnt simply a cooking oil recipe. Sticking any old biological fuel into your car may or may not work, but it will generally be less efficient (less speed/acceleration), could damage your engine, and more than likely wont meet the requirements that are in place for using bio fuel.
Originally, before the time of petrol stations being easily accessible, people did produce their own fuel using various forms of organic oil. however there are now numerous factors that must be taken into account, such as:
-engines are much more complex than they used to be, so a specific quality of fuel will be needed.
-co2 emission need to meet government regulations
in the link I've posted, the writer of the text concludes as follows:
';In conclusion, and based upon extensive research from many reputable organisations, the best advice is only to use REFINED base oils, preferably from reputable suppliers, and do not use plain supermarket vegetable oils, or partially refined (straight vegetable oils) or unrefined waste cooking oils in diesel engines.
Stick to refined oils from reputable large scale fuel producers (the big boys) or reputable small scale producers who will produce a product to the relevant standards, and have the quality testing procedures in place, and are willing to show their records of these quality procedures.';
so there you go! Have a read of the the info in that link though, its interesting. and remember you definitely cant just use normal cooking oil, it needs mixing with a lot of other chemicals, then it needs refining, purifying, etc etc
actually, looking through that link, theres a lot to be done if you want to make bio diesel..... you have to record every batch of fuel you make by law, whether youre an individual or a massive company. you need all the right gear and equipment to properly make it. youre only allowed to make 2500 litres of the stuff each year, any more than that and you have to start paying tax on it.....
... and i read all that in one paragraph out of several pages!
I run my Citroen ZX 1.9D on 100% waste vegetable oil. It has been running for 18 months and 15,000 miles with no problems.. in fact the performance is better.
I found most chip shops rarely change their oil; usually, they just top it up, and when they do change it, it is so burned, it is a poor fuel source. My neighbour owns a ';high-class'; indian restaurant. They change the oil in their deep fat fryers every week, so it's really good quality. In sourcing used oil, I found that many restaurants and take-aways simply dispose of their oil by tipping it down the drain (which is illegal) and would be glad if someone came and took it away for them for nothing.
In the case of my neighbour, the company that delivered his new oil, took the oil oil away, but they didn't pay him anything for it and he didn't pay to have it taken away, so he was perfectly happy for me to have it instead.
After I collect the oil (about 20 litres per week) I let it settle for a week, then filter it through old denim, then I pour it straight into the tank. I was going to produce bio-diesel and even attended a course on how to make it, but I decided that it was easier to use waste veg oil provided I could find the right car.
they find a cheap supply of used cooking oil , restaurant take away or similiar , then filter it , you can add bio degradable stuff in that will rot but it has to be filtered . I am looking into it and it is not that straightforward , some are recommending a fuel conversion kit to be fitted and a seperate tank . Do your homework , problems can arise .
I belive one person has already said this, but go around to fast food or formal resturants and ask if you can have the used cooking oil. Chance are they would be thrilled to give it away, as it is a hassle to cleanly get rid of.
As for the process of actually making a fuel out of it... I wouldn't know, maybe someone else can help you out there.
you can go to any local fast food resturant, and they should give it to you free if you ask...theproblem they have is that they have to pay to ship it off.however if you take it from them, they dont have to pay anything
just thought you might be interested in this
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Why not talk to the local restaurant owners? They have a lot of left over oil from frying and cooking. One restaurant owner I know acutally is making his own bio diesel for his car with left over cooking oil.
Check here,
http://www.amazon.com/gp/redirect.html?ie=UTF8%26amp;location=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2F%26amp;tag=funjok-20%26amp;linkCode=ur2%26amp;camp=1789%26amp;creative=9325
You will find what you like!
Good luck!
go to your local chippie or takeaway, the fuel also works better once it has ben used. make sure you filter all the gunk out though.
Make friends with your local chippy, they make about 55 (forgot the units) a week
Saturday, August 21, 2010
I just bought a brand new toro mower and my wife was trying to be helpful and put the oil in the gas tank!?
I haven't added any gas at all, it's just got the oil in the tank. I currently have the mower flipped and draining and removed the spark plug. Any other suggestions?I just bought a brand new toro mower and my wife was trying to be helpful and put the oil in the gas tank!?
You are draining out crankcase oil out of the spark plug and not oil your wife put into the gas tank. Its impossible for oil to flood a spark plug hole thru the gas tank and carberator.
Dont be a bit concerned turn the engine over and drain out the gas tank. Often oil is put into gas tanks of small lawn mower engines, there is an oil called ';miracle oil'; that a lot of people use, its added right to the gasoline. I myself, use about a 1/2 cup oil to a tank of my tractor The tank is 3 gallons.
Fill it with gasoline and for sure dont forget to add oil to crankcase as you have drained that out thu the valves and out thru the spark plug. Actually you are draining out crankcase oil thru the spark plug and not gas tank oil as ive said above.
Again, be sure to add oil to crankcase.I just bought a brand new toro mower and my wife was trying to be helpful and put the oil in the gas tank!?
buy one of those turkey baisters and put about half a tank of gas in there to dilute and dissolve the remaining oil...then suck out that mixture. A little oil isn't going to ruin your mower motor but too much could clog up the carb.
ONce the bulk is drained out you can turn it back over, make sure the oil in the crankcase is correct level, then put gas in the fuel tank. The gas will dilute the oil and mix it in and it'll go thru and be burned off. Might take a couple of tanks to get it out of the fuel system but not a big deal actually. So the first one might create a little fouling on the sparkplug but to check after the first tank take it out and clean it and inspect.
You are draining out crankcase oil out of the spark plug and not oil your wife put into the gas tank. Its impossible for oil to flood a spark plug hole thru the gas tank and carberator.
Dont be a bit concerned turn the engine over and drain out the gas tank. Often oil is put into gas tanks of small lawn mower engines, there is an oil called ';miracle oil'; that a lot of people use, its added right to the gasoline. I myself, use about a 1/2 cup oil to a tank of my tractor The tank is 3 gallons.
Fill it with gasoline and for sure dont forget to add oil to crankcase as you have drained that out thu the valves and out thru the spark plug. Actually you are draining out crankcase oil thru the spark plug and not gas tank oil as ive said above.
Again, be sure to add oil to crankcase.I just bought a brand new toro mower and my wife was trying to be helpful and put the oil in the gas tank!?
buy one of those turkey baisters and put about half a tank of gas in there to dilute and dissolve the remaining oil...then suck out that mixture. A little oil isn't going to ruin your mower motor but too much could clog up the carb.
ONce the bulk is drained out you can turn it back over, make sure the oil in the crankcase is correct level, then put gas in the fuel tank. The gas will dilute the oil and mix it in and it'll go thru and be burned off. Might take a couple of tanks to get it out of the fuel system but not a big deal actually. So the first one might create a little fouling on the sparkplug but to check after the first tank take it out and clean it and inspect.
I just bought a dark brown microfiber couch and it has a few dark stains(maybe oil)how do i clean it?
it has the code';s'; which is a solvent based cleaner. where can i buy that? i live in portland or and dont wanna just go to the furnature place and spend more money on a over priced item i can get at store.I just bought a dark brown microfiber couch and it has a few dark stains(maybe oil)how do i clean it?
If you're sure it's an oil stain, pour a very little bit of Dawn dish soap onto a clean, damp cloth. Rub in gently until the stain is gone. With another clean damp cloth, wipe over the stain until the Dawn has been removed. With a paper towel, blot the area well, then let it air dry. I have a Micro Plush couch also %26amp; most stains will come off with cold water. If it's oil, you need a degreaser, which is why I suggest Dawn dish soap.
If you're sure it's an oil stain, pour a very little bit of Dawn dish soap onto a clean, damp cloth. Rub in gently until the stain is gone. With another clean damp cloth, wipe over the stain until the Dawn has been removed. With a paper towel, blot the area well, then let it air dry. I have a Micro Plush couch also %26amp; most stains will come off with cold water. If it's oil, you need a degreaser, which is why I suggest Dawn dish soap.
Do you buy the Democrats arguement that we shouldn't drill for oil because it wouldn't affect prices at the
pump for years?
How stupid can these people be?
Have they ever heard about thinking of the future?
If they hadn't stopped the drilling over the past 30 years we wouldn't be in this position todayDo you buy the Democrats arguement that we shouldn't drill for oil because it wouldn't affect prices at the
That's just the usual democrat logic for you
it just doesn't make any sense at all
the dems are always going after the dumb people's votes
remember Hillary and her contingent of dummiesDo you buy the Democrats arguement that we shouldn't drill for oil because it wouldn't affect prices at the
it's just so typical of an answer from the political party that gains it's power through others weakness.
The reality is, the moment Congress announces Drilling offshore and ANWR for that matter prices at the pump will reflect it immediately. (because of speculative pricing).
It never ceases to amaze me when the Dems or Liberals are the first to complain about a problem or issue, but the moment you offer a solution, they are the first to say that it won't work.
'....stopped the drilling over the past 30 years........'? Where have you been living? Under what rock? Drilling and exploration for oil and gas has never stopped? Have there been slow times and crazy times? Yes. But there is a ton of drilling going on in the US, has been for 40+ years, and that has expanded tremendously in the past 2 years. Do you honestly think that a company drills for oil one day, that same oil is sent to the refinery the next day, and the day after that it's in the pump ready for you to consume? If you do then you are the one who should be asking yourself just how stupid are you.
How about their argument that we should stop being so addicted to oil and actually start implementing alternative, clean and renewable energy sources?
How stupid can cons be? Have they ever thought about the future or do they just want to tie our hands even more to big oil? Why do cons want the oil companies to have all of the 100 year leases to all of our natural resources and a monopoly with little to no competition? Are they truly sheeple like that?
Have you ever seen all the oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico? Do you think they just grew off the ocean floor? Did you know there are still millions of acres under lease by the oil companies in the gulf yet to be drilled? Before you try shoving your foot into others mouths, you need to take it out of your own first. I'm going to guess you weren't around in 1973 when OPEC squeezed our gonads and we still did absolutely nothing. Like you, I do indeed wonder how stupid some people can be.
No, I do not accept it. It is a hollow, simple-minded argument.
It is like saying, ';I shouldn't take the first step to walk down the street, because it will take me a hundred steps to reach the end of the block. It would be better if I just sat here on the porch.';
Nope, because that isn't the real issue. The real issue should encompass total energy independence from outside sources and using every resource that we have available including alternative energy such as nuclear power plants.
The dems are slicing their own throats by fighting this, let 'em.
Excuse me but Ronald Reagan put the moritorium on off shore drilling and George H W Bush renewed it !!
Two arch conservatives, but go ahead, blame the liberals,
it is what you people do best !!
Keith Olbermann delivered a special report Wednesday on the ';Enron loophole'; -- a regulatory gap that is the single greatest cause of out-of-control gasoline prices -- and how McCain's leading advisors created that loophole and continue to defend it.
People who deal in oil routinely use ';futures'; -- agreements in advance on prices and delivery dates -- to deal with fluctuations in the market. However, deregulation has allowed commodity speculators to take over this system of futures and use it for their own profit, running up the price of oil in a speculative bubble.
According to Olbermann, the story of $4 a gallon gas begins during the presidency of George H.W. Bush, when former Enron CEO Ken Lay started speculating on energy futures. The Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) gave Enron free rein, and when Bill Clinton was elected in 1992, CFTC Chairwoman Wendy Gramm moved to lock in the commission's informal position on Enron as official policy. Gramm then joined Enron's board of directors, earning more than $900,000 over the next decade.
In December 2000, during the chaos following the presidential election, Enron got a law passed containing an amendment known as the ';Enron loophole,'; deregulating not just single trades but entire markets. This made it possible for Enron to artificially create the California energy crisis -- and left Enron employees chortling over how they had ****** over ';Grandma Millie.';
The Enron loophole applied not just to electricity, but to all energy sources, which is why speculators have now been able to take over the oil market. Two weeks ago, the Senate Commerce Committee heard testimony from a former CFTC director that ';the speculators are not just placing bets in these futures markets, they're saying, 'Gosh, I can control the price of heating oil.' ... Morgan Stanley is the biggest heating oil owner in New England.';
If the Enron loophole is removed, said this director, ';you get at least a 25% drop in the cost of oil ... some people estimate 50%.';
John McCain voted to close the Enron loophole in 2002 and 2003, saying at the time that ';we're all tainted'; by Enron's money. But, notes Olbermann, ';for most of this campaign, McCain has offered explanations other than the influence of speculators, and remedies other than regulation.'; If the Enron loophole is not closed, even alternative energy sources will do little to reduce prices, because speculators will be able to immediately take those over as well.
';John McCain doesn't talk about the Enron loophole any more,'; reports Olbermann. ';What changed? Since 2006, John McCain's top economic advisor has been former Texas Senator Phil Gramm, husband of the former CFTC head who then joined Enron.';
';It was Graham who passed the Enron loophole ... with no hearings, no debate,'; Olberman emphasizes. ';It was Graham who stopped Democrats from closing the Enron loophole. ... Graham lobbied Congress about commodity trading rules in 2006.';
In addition, McCain's senior advisor, Charlie Black, was a lobbyist for the act containing the Enron loophole in 2000, and McCain's finance co-chair, Wayne Berman, has lobbied more recently against legislation to prevent price gouging.
Olbermann acknowledges that McCain is now saying, ';We must reforms the laws and regulations governing the oil futures market.'; However, McCain has not yet specifically mentioned the Enron loophole, and he still has Gramm and Berman and Black running his campaign and writing his economic policies
Have you heard about the one where the US carmakers fought for years to forbid any laws that would force them to make less thirsty engines?
No, because most of the recent run-up is due to speculators who need a jolt to get them out of the market.
Hell No!
No, I don't.
Better late than never...facial
How stupid can these people be?
Have they ever heard about thinking of the future?
If they hadn't stopped the drilling over the past 30 years we wouldn't be in this position todayDo you buy the Democrats arguement that we shouldn't drill for oil because it wouldn't affect prices at the
That's just the usual democrat logic for you
it just doesn't make any sense at all
the dems are always going after the dumb people's votes
remember Hillary and her contingent of dummiesDo you buy the Democrats arguement that we shouldn't drill for oil because it wouldn't affect prices at the
it's just so typical of an answer from the political party that gains it's power through others weakness.
The reality is, the moment Congress announces Drilling offshore and ANWR for that matter prices at the pump will reflect it immediately. (because of speculative pricing).
It never ceases to amaze me when the Dems or Liberals are the first to complain about a problem or issue, but the moment you offer a solution, they are the first to say that it won't work.
'....stopped the drilling over the past 30 years........'? Where have you been living? Under what rock? Drilling and exploration for oil and gas has never stopped? Have there been slow times and crazy times? Yes. But there is a ton of drilling going on in the US, has been for 40+ years, and that has expanded tremendously in the past 2 years. Do you honestly think that a company drills for oil one day, that same oil is sent to the refinery the next day, and the day after that it's in the pump ready for you to consume? If you do then you are the one who should be asking yourself just how stupid are you.
How about their argument that we should stop being so addicted to oil and actually start implementing alternative, clean and renewable energy sources?
How stupid can cons be? Have they ever thought about the future or do they just want to tie our hands even more to big oil? Why do cons want the oil companies to have all of the 100 year leases to all of our natural resources and a monopoly with little to no competition? Are they truly sheeple like that?
Have you ever seen all the oil platforms in the Gulf of Mexico? Do you think they just grew off the ocean floor? Did you know there are still millions of acres under lease by the oil companies in the gulf yet to be drilled? Before you try shoving your foot into others mouths, you need to take it out of your own first. I'm going to guess you weren't around in 1973 when OPEC squeezed our gonads and we still did absolutely nothing. Like you, I do indeed wonder how stupid some people can be.
No, I do not accept it. It is a hollow, simple-minded argument.
It is like saying, ';I shouldn't take the first step to walk down the street, because it will take me a hundred steps to reach the end of the block. It would be better if I just sat here on the porch.';
Nope, because that isn't the real issue. The real issue should encompass total energy independence from outside sources and using every resource that we have available including alternative energy such as nuclear power plants.
The dems are slicing their own throats by fighting this, let 'em.
Excuse me but Ronald Reagan put the moritorium on off shore drilling and George H W Bush renewed it !!
Two arch conservatives, but go ahead, blame the liberals,
it is what you people do best !!
Keith Olbermann delivered a special report Wednesday on the ';Enron loophole'; -- a regulatory gap that is the single greatest cause of out-of-control gasoline prices -- and how McCain's leading advisors created that loophole and continue to defend it.
People who deal in oil routinely use ';futures'; -- agreements in advance on prices and delivery dates -- to deal with fluctuations in the market. However, deregulation has allowed commodity speculators to take over this system of futures and use it for their own profit, running up the price of oil in a speculative bubble.
According to Olbermann, the story of $4 a gallon gas begins during the presidency of George H.W. Bush, when former Enron CEO Ken Lay started speculating on energy futures. The Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) gave Enron free rein, and when Bill Clinton was elected in 1992, CFTC Chairwoman Wendy Gramm moved to lock in the commission's informal position on Enron as official policy. Gramm then joined Enron's board of directors, earning more than $900,000 over the next decade.
In December 2000, during the chaos following the presidential election, Enron got a law passed containing an amendment known as the ';Enron loophole,'; deregulating not just single trades but entire markets. This made it possible for Enron to artificially create the California energy crisis -- and left Enron employees chortling over how they had ****** over ';Grandma Millie.';
The Enron loophole applied not just to electricity, but to all energy sources, which is why speculators have now been able to take over the oil market. Two weeks ago, the Senate Commerce Committee heard testimony from a former CFTC director that ';the speculators are not just placing bets in these futures markets, they're saying, 'Gosh, I can control the price of heating oil.' ... Morgan Stanley is the biggest heating oil owner in New England.';
If the Enron loophole is removed, said this director, ';you get at least a 25% drop in the cost of oil ... some people estimate 50%.';
John McCain voted to close the Enron loophole in 2002 and 2003, saying at the time that ';we're all tainted'; by Enron's money. But, notes Olbermann, ';for most of this campaign, McCain has offered explanations other than the influence of speculators, and remedies other than regulation.'; If the Enron loophole is not closed, even alternative energy sources will do little to reduce prices, because speculators will be able to immediately take those over as well.
';John McCain doesn't talk about the Enron loophole any more,'; reports Olbermann. ';What changed? Since 2006, John McCain's top economic advisor has been former Texas Senator Phil Gramm, husband of the former CFTC head who then joined Enron.';
';It was Graham who passed the Enron loophole ... with no hearings, no debate,'; Olberman emphasizes. ';It was Graham who stopped Democrats from closing the Enron loophole. ... Graham lobbied Congress about commodity trading rules in 2006.';
In addition, McCain's senior advisor, Charlie Black, was a lobbyist for the act containing the Enron loophole in 2000, and McCain's finance co-chair, Wayne Berman, has lobbied more recently against legislation to prevent price gouging.
Olbermann acknowledges that McCain is now saying, ';We must reforms the laws and regulations governing the oil futures market.'; However, McCain has not yet specifically mentioned the Enron loophole, and he still has Gramm and Berman and Black running his campaign and writing his economic policies
Have you heard about the one where the US carmakers fought for years to forbid any laws that would force them to make less thirsty engines?
No, because most of the recent run-up is due to speculators who need a jolt to get them out of the market.
Hell No!
No, I don't.
Better late than never...
Why no news coverage of the ';don't buy gas day';? (5/15/07) Lots of oil co adv. maybe?
I suppose the networks have to do what the oil co.'s say to keep the avd. but the price of gas will not go down as long as the public appears to accept it.Why no news coverage of the ';don't buy gas day';? (5/15/07) Lots of oil co adv. maybe?
Maybe because it's never been more than a glorified urban legend and yesterday was no different.
Refusing to accept it by asking Congress to check into gouging is not the same as pretending a one day boycott will make any difference, much less .30 a gallon.Why no news coverage of the ';don't buy gas day';? (5/15/07) Lots of oil co adv. maybe?
I actually saw several news stories on it, so I dont know what you are talking about.
But it does not work anyway. I need to drive 250-300 miles each week. I need about 25 gallons of unleaded gasoline each week, and not buying gas wont change that.
You want cheap gas? Get rid of liberals and let us build another refinery in this country. Also, allow safe, clean, responsible drilling in this country.
It is all supply and demand. Supply is at capacity, and until that changes, gas prices will only get higher. Dont blame the gas companies, the price is set on the commodity market. And that price is high because supply is low and demand is high.
Because this practice is completely ineffective. So what if nobody buys gas on one day of the year? They'll buy it the next day - or the day after that, and the oil companies KNOW this. The effect of the day here was that prices jumped 15 cents a gallon the next day. Nice work!
They want people to boycott exxon for the rest of the year there is another big gas company but the news didn't say which one. I don't buy from exxon anyways.
The networks certainly aren't receiving ad revenue
from people trying to have a ';don't buy gas'; day.
So - the only place it would be seen would be in
the news. Unfortunately, it drowns in a sea of other
news that is bigger (such as the war in
Iraq, Gonzales, etc).
This is what ';grass roots'; campaigns are all about.
Because it was a fairly useless gesture. One day of not buying gas isn't going to make any difference to any oil company. If we were smart we would all agree to entirely boycott one oil company for a year or two, like Exxon for example. That would mean something. This one-day boycott was only symbolic -- not meaningful.
This kind of day has come up hundreds of times over the past (Bush) years. It never works out. The only way it would is if it was on Fox News. That won't happen because they love Bush and would probably be sued by all the oil companies.
Never happen.
Well I heard they talked about the boycott on CNN (before may 15). I didnt know they been doing this for years this is my first time doing the boycott. I think we should come up with another boycott... who's gonna start?? Other countries did a boycott also.. lets do another one (i bet it wont work.. they're just gonna raise the price up 10 cnts more after that day!)
I saw news coverage on it here in San Diego. But, in reality, it is a stupid thing to bother with because a boycott isn't going to help, it hasn't in the past. They got us by the balls and they know it.
I live in Iowa, and they had brief coverage on it
Because it was not a news worthy event, and had very little impact on the oil companies. The whole idea is based on a false premise in the first place. If you stop and thing about, if you buy fuel 3 times a month, will it matter if you skip one day? Instead of the 1st, 15th and 30th you buy on the 1st, 16th and 31st, the average is still the same.
Also see http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/鈥?/a>
What we need is to inform the companies of our intent on the next ';Don't Buy Gas Day.'; We should also threaten to carpool or buy hybrids. Then the media pretty much has to take notice.
I didn't buy gas that day either, although I think change is more likely if more people agree to carpool, which, by definition, saves gas. If carpooling became more popular again, the amount of gas being purchased would plummet, and the oil companies would be forced to lower prices just to stay in business.
I actually saw some protests on our local stations about it this morning... (Milwaukee)
So tell me? Did gas prices magically drop 30 cents a gallon today, like allegedly happened in 1997?
In some of my previous responses to this stupid gas protest, I predicted the oil companies would raise prices today to take advantage of those that waited until today to buy. I haven't looked at prices yet today, but I wonder if it happened.
A lot of gas stations ran some VERY cheap specials yesterday...the news of which overcame the ';protest';.
Besides...what's the point of a one day protest when you're going to buy the stuff anyway the OTHER 364 days of the year?
Maybe because it's never been more than a glorified urban legend and yesterday was no different.
Refusing to accept it by asking Congress to check into gouging is not the same as pretending a one day boycott will make any difference, much less .30 a gallon.Why no news coverage of the ';don't buy gas day';? (5/15/07) Lots of oil co adv. maybe?
I actually saw several news stories on it, so I dont know what you are talking about.
But it does not work anyway. I need to drive 250-300 miles each week. I need about 25 gallons of unleaded gasoline each week, and not buying gas wont change that.
You want cheap gas? Get rid of liberals and let us build another refinery in this country. Also, allow safe, clean, responsible drilling in this country.
It is all supply and demand. Supply is at capacity, and until that changes, gas prices will only get higher. Dont blame the gas companies, the price is set on the commodity market. And that price is high because supply is low and demand is high.
Because this practice is completely ineffective. So what if nobody buys gas on one day of the year? They'll buy it the next day - or the day after that, and the oil companies KNOW this. The effect of the day here was that prices jumped 15 cents a gallon the next day. Nice work!
They want people to boycott exxon for the rest of the year there is another big gas company but the news didn't say which one. I don't buy from exxon anyways.
The networks certainly aren't receiving ad revenue
from people trying to have a ';don't buy gas'; day.
So - the only place it would be seen would be in
the news. Unfortunately, it drowns in a sea of other
news that is bigger (such as the war in
Iraq, Gonzales, etc).
This is what ';grass roots'; campaigns are all about.
Because it was a fairly useless gesture. One day of not buying gas isn't going to make any difference to any oil company. If we were smart we would all agree to entirely boycott one oil company for a year or two, like Exxon for example. That would mean something. This one-day boycott was only symbolic -- not meaningful.
This kind of day has come up hundreds of times over the past (Bush) years. It never works out. The only way it would is if it was on Fox News. That won't happen because they love Bush and would probably be sued by all the oil companies.
Never happen.
Well I heard they talked about the boycott on CNN (before may 15). I didnt know they been doing this for years this is my first time doing the boycott. I think we should come up with another boycott... who's gonna start?? Other countries did a boycott also.. lets do another one (i bet it wont work.. they're just gonna raise the price up 10 cnts more after that day!)
I saw news coverage on it here in San Diego. But, in reality, it is a stupid thing to bother with because a boycott isn't going to help, it hasn't in the past. They got us by the balls and they know it.
I live in Iowa, and they had brief coverage on it
Because it was not a news worthy event, and had very little impact on the oil companies. The whole idea is based on a false premise in the first place. If you stop and thing about, if you buy fuel 3 times a month, will it matter if you skip one day? Instead of the 1st, 15th and 30th you buy on the 1st, 16th and 31st, the average is still the same.
Also see http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/鈥?/a>
What we need is to inform the companies of our intent on the next ';Don't Buy Gas Day.'; We should also threaten to carpool or buy hybrids. Then the media pretty much has to take notice.
I didn't buy gas that day either, although I think change is more likely if more people agree to carpool, which, by definition, saves gas. If carpooling became more popular again, the amount of gas being purchased would plummet, and the oil companies would be forced to lower prices just to stay in business.
I actually saw some protests on our local stations about it this morning... (Milwaukee)
So tell me? Did gas prices magically drop 30 cents a gallon today, like allegedly happened in 1997?
In some of my previous responses to this stupid gas protest, I predicted the oil companies would raise prices today to take advantage of those that waited until today to buy. I haven't looked at prices yet today, but I wonder if it happened.
A lot of gas stations ran some VERY cheap specials yesterday...the news of which overcame the ';protest';.
Besides...what's the point of a one day protest when you're going to buy the stuff anyway the OTHER 364 days of the year?
Does any one have a used 2 disc video of The Carder Method of oil painting. I'm on fixed income can buy used.?
I see it's pretty expensive new. I look all over the net for used videos at amazon and ebay, but I couldn't find anything. It must be pretty new so you may have to wait a while before you can find a used set. The method looks interesting though. Good luck.
I have 1971 450 suzuki 2-stroke with a broken oil injector tank and would like to know where to buy new one.?
i do not use the tank for mixing the oil and gas in the carb but to lube the piston ring and that is why i need a new one thanks for your answerI have 1971 450 suzuki 2-stroke with a broken oil injector tank and would like to know where to buy new one.?
You should take the tank off and have a professional welder weld it and re-paint it as they no longer manufacture this item.If it has a oil level peep glass make sure and keep weld sparks off of it.I have 1971 450 suzuki 2-stroke with a broken oil injector tank and would like to know where to buy new one.?
if you premix, then the piston ring IS getting oil.
I would nix the tank, plug the hole from the tank to the carb, and use premix as the oils nowadays are a whole lot better than they were in 1971
You should take the tank off and have a professional welder weld it and re-paint it as they no longer manufacture this item.If it has a oil level peep glass make sure and keep weld sparks off of it.I have 1971 450 suzuki 2-stroke with a broken oil injector tank and would like to know where to buy new one.?
if you premix, then the piston ring IS getting oil.
I would nix the tank, plug the hole from the tank to the carb, and use premix as the oils nowadays are a whole lot better than they were in 1971
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